…the Hickok45 here. Got me a new gun. It’s a new model. I think a lot of people will like this. It’s called a Glock 17. You might not be familiar with it, but I just found out about it, so we thought we’d bring it to you. How’s that? Does that make sense?
We’ve not really done a review of the Glock 17. We had one with a suppressor once, but that was mainly about the suppressor. Now I own a Glock 17. After all these years, sometimes badmouthing the Glock 17, I confess I do, because I prefer the Glock 19 size. But I bought one. I traded another firearm for it, but I essentially bought it. This is my Glock 17.
Thought we’d do something a little bit different, you’ve seen it in a comparison video with something, but I haven’t fired it. I was taking it apart and looking at it and thought this is neat. If you like firearms and you like semi-automatic firearms and you like Glocks or any kind and you take it apart and it looks like it just came off the line. There’s no crud anywhere. It’s neat because they don’t stay that way very long. Even when you clean them up they’re nice, but they’re not like brand new.
So I thought why don’t we just do a video and start out with a brand new gun. Since we’re doing that, I thought, why don’t I show people what I do? I do get questions about that quite often. Do you lube your gun before you shoot it? When you get a new gun, how do you go about getting it ready to shoot? What about that copper lube that Glock puts on there? Do you clean it off? I get a lot of questions, and have over the years, about that. I thought, well, this might be a good time to do that. We’re going to shoot the Glock, but before we do that, I’ll just show you what I do when I get a new firearm in. Whether it’s a T&E gun or however it comes to me, when I get a new firearm — now this one’s special, they knew I was buying it, so it came with loaded magazines and a loaded gun. It’s probably even hot, you reckon?
I went ahead and loaded those magazines, the gun is not loaded. I loaded them just to have them ready to go. They don’t normally come with loaded magazines, but you do get three magazines and your back straps and everything. I have replaced — I put one of the straps on there — the large one. That’s it, a new firearm that I have never fired. What I normally do is — I have been known to just come out and take a few shots with it and then go clean it. Most of the time, I take the firearm apart —thought you might enjoy seeing a brand new Glock, in pristine condition, other than being fired maybe at the factory, it’s so clean. Look at that frame; they don’t stay like that for very long, do they? They clean up just fine and you can make it look just about like that, can’t you? But it’s just never been fired, other than those two or three rounds they fire at the factory.
There we have a brand new — it’s Gen 4 — and what I do is look it over and see how much lube or junk is on it. Some guns come, pistols especially, come with a lot of lube. It’s okay. I don’t have any idea what lube it is. I use the ballistol lube. For consistency sake, especially since we’ll probably being doing a video on it, I like to remove that variable because I don’t know what lube is on it. Even if somebody lends me a gun, I’ll generally make sure it’s lubed up with ballistol. Lots of lubes work. Lots of lubes are fine. I like to remove that variable and make sure it’s lubed the way I lube it. I can’t be out here shooting and it starts malfunctioning and then think maybe it was the lube that person used or the lube the factory put on it or something. I know it’s lubed properly.
Some I have to do a lot of stuff. I have the alcohol and will get some on a paper towel or a rag and will just go over areas inside and make sure that they lube is off of it. There are better things than alcohol, but I just try to use something simple. It wouldn’t really matter if I didn’t get it all off, but it’s probably better to get most of it off. Ballistol is not petroleum based so it doesn’t mix with your typical gun oils that well anyway. That’s not loaded with lube or anything. I noticed some of that copper stuff. That’s not going to hurt a thing. It’ll be gone in a little while. It doesn’t really matter. The barrel is actually kind of dry. I bought this in a gun shop. What I’ll usually do is take a patch and a little alcohol — some of you are very familiar with alcohol, rubbing and otherwise – and I’ll run that through there. Clean barrel. Look at that. Then I’ll dry that out, maybe. Often, I just leave it lying on the workbench. Normally I do this on my workbench in the reloading room. I’ve got the wooden table; I can spray ballistol without worrying about it messing up our expensive leather here.
This looks very dry. I will usually take a toothbrush and just like when you’re cleaning it — I don’t see any lube there and there shouldn’t be a bunch of lube in there, not on the rails. Looks good. Now what I’ll do sometimes in the workroom, is I’ll soak this sucker and get some in the barrel. You don’t have to do it, I just like the properties that ballistol gives metal. It tends to, as I’ve said before, turn it into an old iron skillet like I cook eggs on quite often during the week. It’s cured and things don’t seem to stick to it as well. I’ve got some inside the barrel and I’ll put some on a patch and do the same thing with the ballistol — the alcohol has dried up by now. I’ll ballistol a patch and run it through there and I feel it helps things keep from sticking to it if it’s been treated, so to speak. Maybe not so much a Glock barrel as some other firearms. Glock barrels are a really hard metal. Then a dry patch through there and that thing is ready to go, as far as I’m concerned. It doesn’t hurt if you have a little oil there as it links up. It’s not a problem at all.
In here, that’s dried up by now. I might take a little ballistol, put a little in there, not too much. I’ll usually make sure there is some in the grooves and the rails. You don’t want to shoot it too dry, although Glocks don’t need a lot of lube. I’ll use these little handy do dads — drawing a blank on the name on these. It’s terrible. I’ll think of it — the description. I’ve really discovered these and like them a lot. I put a little ballistol on the end of these giant q-tips and then I can get it in there where I think a little bit might be good. Make sure the rails have it. If it’s in the rails, I know we’re good. Then I know you’re supposed to put a little bit on these places and put a little bit there on the connector. That’s about all the lube I think it needs.
That’s basically it, and then I’ll just bring it out and shoot it. I do something that a lot of people don’t. I run into people all the time whose guns are actually dirty, they just don’t clean it until they feel it actually needs it. I typically clean a Glock every time I shoot it. Of all the pistols, you could get by without doing that; a Glock is one of them. You could probably shoot the thing for a year and not have to worry or think about that, but I just clean them. You don’t know. A zombie apocalypse could start tomorrow and I’ve got all these dirty guns. I just like to have them clean. I never know which one for sure I might put in a holster and be carrying.
I’m sorry if you don’t like Glocks. You’re going to hear a little Glock love. They tend to work. We’ll find out. I might get surprised, but when I open up a new Glock, it’s not wise to do it, but I may have even carried this thing maybe before shooting it. I am that confident in Glocks. Now you’ll love it — Glock haters – if I have to eat my words today. I have not fired this gun, you can tell that — if it malfunctions and we have all sorts of problems, but don’t expect that to happen. I’m just basing that, not on this firearm, but on 25 years or more of Glock experience, that’s what I’m basing that on. We could have a surprise today though. You never know what’s going to happen in real time. Is it real time? I think it’s kind of real. Let me move this stuff out of the way — all this junk. That’s what I do, and then I just take it out and fire the thing. And we will see if it works.
Glock 17, Gaston’s creation. Let’s just see if it works before I talk too much about that. If it doesn’t work, we might claim it was made by someone else. I have a variety of magazines out — got some hollow points, don’t let me forget to shoot those at some point. After we get it dirty, make sure I fire those. Got some magazines, got them loaded. Most Glocks, the sights are on. They typically hit right where you point. I know that sounds obvious, but they normally don’t shoot high or low. We’ll see.
First shots with this baby. It’s pretty bad that I didn’t have a Glock 17. I started out with a Glock 17 and that’s where I developed that amount of Glock love you hear around here. What should we shoot first with our brand new firearm? We should probably shoot something that will explode like that 2-liter right there. How about a can? Let’s see if the sights are on. They seem to be. They seem to be. Let’s try a couple more 2 liters. Gone. I think they might be on.
Now look at it. Looks a little different, doesn’t it? It has smoked up and will never be the same. But it will keep working and I guarantee it. I happen to have some more ammo. The Glock 17, we all know about the Glock 17, but just to reiterate and remind you of some things. The fellow who developed it — the Glock is a very interesting story. I have read the book “Glock” and I would recommend it if you like Glocks. It’s a very interesting story of how it all got started. Glock is kind of a quirky company in a lot of ways. You’ll be surprised by some of what you read. But by in large, Gaston Glock had no experience with firearms before 1980. He was a mechanical engineer building furniture and hardware and was using synthetic materials and things. He was kind of an expert in that area. Then the Austrian government was looking for a new pistol and he kind of got tied up in that and said, “hey, maybe I can do that.” He got some experts in handguns from law enforcement, military and sports shooting competition and said, “what’s a pistol need — what should we look at — what do you want to have on a combat pistol”. I think one of the keys there was probably that he got competition or sport shooters involved, not just military and law enforcement. Obviously, some of the things they came up with are exactly the things that I like, that John likes, a lot of people who compete with these things like, law enforcement likes and even military.
They did their homework. It’s very interesting, I think, because he had no pre-conceived notions. He just got a bunch of semi-automatic pistols and said before 1980 he didn’t know the difference between a revolver and a semi-automatic pistol. He really didn’t. He was not a member of the firearms’ world. He just — hey I could make one of these, I could make about anything. He just studied it, got expert advice and put one together. I think it was 6 months, 9 months, and he had a prototype out there and it’s really not much unlike the final Glock 17 first gen. Pretty interesting stuff and it does show you that you hear people talk about how they are involved in some project and want to get some fresh eyes on something and that maybe someone they bring in to help consult doesn’t know anything about it, might be a good thing sometimes. He had no pre-conceived notions really and that’s one reason for the innovative design. Ugly design some of you might think. Horrible design some of you might think. It was designed around the 9 mm cartridge and let’s see if it’ll fire. Why don’t we go ahead and shoot these hollow points before you’re crazy shooter forgets. Again, I finally remembered to request some from Federal, these are hydra-shocks, I believe. They are hollow points and we appreciate the ammo from Federal. So we’ll shoot some of these, see if it functions. Let’s just go out to the gong with these things. Maybe it’ll go through it. I’m going to try that red plate on the right. I don’t know where to hold it exactly, but let’s assume it’s like most Glocks. I guess right there. Let’s try a ram while I’ve got those hydra-shocks in there. Like we’re hunting. Nice. Those are good hunting rounds because they are hollow points. I am amazed. Are y’all amazed?
This thing is working and we haven’t had a malfunction. Can you believe that? I think it will be successful. Right out of the box. No break in period. I thought you were supposed to fire a gun about two hundred times before it was reliable. I wouldn’t recommend you do that. Go buy a gun and then put it in your holster, make that your carry gun. As I said, I would actually trust it, wouldn’t be wise, but I would and you can see why. Again, I still might have to eat my words.
Glock had no pre-conceived notions and in 1982, they got the Austrian contract. They ordered twenty-five or thirty thousand of these for the military. Then the Norwegians adopted it. Before long it was creeping into NATO and there was a lot of buzz around it. I remember those days. I remember seeing my first one in a gun shop in Indiana. I’m not sure of the year, 1985 or 1986. I thought, “wow, what an ugly thing, it holds how many rounds?” I was like everybody else, “yuck”. Then it just took off. Once people started shooting it, they just got over the appearance of it. One thing that helped was our friendly anti gun friends because they had all these rumors ready that it would go through an airport metal detector undetected. That we’d have terrorists getting onto planes with them. It was big in the news; some of you may remember that well, don’t you? Glock had to bring in experts and obviously it didn’t take much to debunk most of that. Actually it had 18-20 ounces of steel — in one article I read, I think they said it had more steel in it then a Smith and Wesson model 36. All of that was silly and they showed how it shows up even on the worst metal detectors. That probably helped Glock as much as anything because people who didn’t know anything about the firearm, certainly knew about it after that. Then it just got really, really popular. In the early 1990s they had already sold three hundred fifty or four hundred thousand of them to military departments, police departments in this country and other countries and it just took off. It was the Glock 17. It was this model. Most of us think of many of the other models as we have them, I have a lot of them. It was designed around this 9 mm, in this size. You’ll hear me badmouth it. The main reason I do is because of the hump. That’s why I put that large back strap on it. It’s not as bad with it on there, but I still don’t like that shape. The hump hits me in the wrong place, whereas on the 19, it kind of tucks in a little better and feels a little better to me. I probably have been overly critical of the Glock 17. I had two or three of them. I used to carry it in the late 1980s, so I liked it. It’s just that I got these and they fit me so much better.
Let’s take a couple more shots. One of the big advantages is the fact that it will hold a magazine like that — we might shoot one of those, you think? You think we ought to? Let’s put a couple in this classic Glock 17 target. Classic gun — I thought I’d just work on the center a little bit. I’m always slinging around that thing — Since it’s a Glock 17, somebody might actually like to have some good hits. Where is that other can? They just shoot and even people that don’t like them, they think they’re really ugly and would never want one, if you put one in their hands — kind of historically going back to the 1980s and early 1990s, it’s always been my experience that they’ll pick it up and they’ll hold their nose because they really don’t want to shoot a Glock and they’ll start shooting and they are hitting targets they don’t normally hit. That’s part of the attraction and the nature of it. This thing is a sweet shooter.
The Gen 4 with that spring has no recoil. This is 124-grain ammo here. One of the advantages of course is you get Glock magazines in that configuration and design for the Glock 18 and just like the 19, it’ll feed these as well. You got a lot of firepower in this thing. Hey, I got an idea — we got a pumpkin down here, kind of inaugurate the pumpkin season, put a few rounds in it. Now it’s just a 9 mm and it’s just a pumpkin, it’s not a watermelon, but let’s chew on it some. Let’s chew up that pumpkin. Let’s eat that pumpkin.
I got hot brass down my back. I think we got him. The whole mag did the job. Hey! It didn’t malfunction. That’s one thing you always have at your disposal if you run into really serious zombie. Now talk about the walking dead, this wouldn’t be a bad outfit, would it?
Got him again, but he doesn’t want to fall. Sorry, I was just playing there. I hope y’all don’t mind. I know you are along for the ride. You know what we have to do with it, since it’s a new gun, I guess to break it in really well, is we need to at least try to hit the chicken. I’ll calm down. I’ll slow down. That’s what happens when you get thirty-three rounds or however many I had in this magazine. If you’re not careful, you end up just throwing lead, which sometimes might be in order, right? I didn’t mean to shoot this much. I’m sorry. I apologize. Let’s calm down here. Let’s shoot that chicken, alright? Okay, let’s properly break in this baby.
Well I turned him sideways. I know I can’t hit him now. Gong time. Nice. They’re just so darn shootable. That’s all there is to it. I got one more magazine. I think I ought to shoot it. I still can’t believe it hasn’t malfunctioned. That’s crazy. Let’s go ahead and take this guy out. Let’s see if I can not hit the bird. Let’s put it in the holster. Alright. Okay 2-liter, it’s either you or me. [gunshot] [laughing]. You too cowboy. . Too much fun. The Glock 17 Gen 4, it started the Glock craze. It didn’t start the polymer pistol craze because those had been around, but this creation did really set the polymer pistol world on its ear in a lot of ways. I was around for those days. Too bad I don’t have a better memory, I’d remember more, but I do remember, this was it. I remember standing right here — this was gravel instead of black top at the time. I thought “whoa, what is that?” He’d bring it over and let me shoot it. The more I shot it, I got over the looks because it shot well. The reliability of it, I couldn’t ignore that. I was shooting a lot of 1911 stuff at the time and competition — it would malfunction occasionally and with hardball — you have to tweak those 1911s, especially back then to get them to work reliably. These things never malfunction and I think I got to have one of those. That was probably in 1986, 1987, I don’t know. Since then, I’ve had them and for two or three years, nothing but this. The Glock 17 and I should be whipped for making so much fun of them because this is what started it with me. The old Glock 17. Quite an innovative design and I think it will probably be a fairly successful firearm. Life is good.