I’m Larry Vickers, the host of Tac TV. I’m a trained firearms professional with years of experience in the industry.
On each and every episode we have safety measures in place, so if you’re not properly trained do not attempt to duplicate anything you see on this show, ever.
Welcome, Tac TV viewers. We’re in Smyrna, Georgia. This is the home of Glock USA.
Unfortunately, we’re not going to be able to show you much behind those doors. However, we are going to be able to show you a dynamite indoor range and a trigger time on one of the coolest Glocks on the planet.
Standby because you’re going to dig it.
Alright, gang, we’re here at the Glock indoor range. Scotty Banks is here. He’s my new friend at Glock. He’s going to run me through some of the drills they use for the instructor workshop.
Scotty, what’s the first drill?
Larry, the first drill we’re going to do is the multiple target engagement drill. We’re going to draw, fire two shots on each target, scan and reholster.
Is this 70 yards?
Is this part of a bigger training for cops?
That’s correct. This is only available to law enforcement and military personnel. NRA certified instructors may obtain the course, also.
Is it all run right here?
It’s all run right here.
Good deal. Let’s go hot.
The first drill is here at seven yards. Scotty, what’s the drill?
We’re going to do multiple target engagement drills. I got the targets edged. When the targets face us, we’re going to draw and fire two shots on each target. We’re going to scan and reholster.
Okay. Roger that.
Alright, Scott. Let me ask you something. Now, in my training I make sure I emphasize that guys follow through on the target, in case they need to shoot them again.
Also, they look behind them in case there’s other threats.
What’s your thoughts on that?
I agree totally. Bad guys usually travel in packs. We want to make sure we do at least a 180. Turn left, right and behind us. Make sure he don’t have a buddy with him. We may have to engage somebody else. Absolutely.
I find guys getting in the mode of paper targets, and they want to see where their hits are. It kind of lulls them into a bad habit, and they forget about their scan and assess.
What’s the next drill?
Next drill is doing one hand drills. It’s multiple engagement. We’re going to draw one hand, strong hand. We’re going to engage with each target.
Okay. Do we still do the follow through scan and assess?
Good deal. We’re going hot.
Alright, Scotty. I’m a believer that you need to through these strong hand drills in once in a while.
There’s specific incidences where people have had to do this around the country. Law enforcement officers had to do it.
Absolutely. In a perfect world, of course, we would like to be able to get both hands on the gun. Law enforcement and military personnel don’t always have that luxury. That’s why we incorporate one handed shooting. A lot of documented shootings are shot with one hand. Absolutely.
Yeah. It’s not uncommon for guys to have the gun in front of them. That’s a center mass, and people shoot him. One hand gets injured.
That’s not uncommon at all. Now, what’s the next drill?
We’re going to set up a reload drill.
We’re going to setup magazines with two rounds in the gun and two rounds in a fresh magazine.
I got it.
We’re going to engage two. Then, slide to the rear to speed reload. Then, engage the second one.
Okay. Cool. Let me set her up.
Nice. Cool. Now, I’m a 1911 guy. I’m used to releasing the mag with my support hand thumb. Now, I understand that you guys teach coming over the top. Is that correct?
That’s correct. At Glock we teach the over the top method. Our slide stop was designed to slide to the rear.
Right. The slide stop is different.
That’s why we call it a slide stop. That’s correct.
We teach the over the top grip to pull back the slide and let it run forward.
I tell people that is one of the great things about a Glock. It only has two levers.
One to release magazine and slide stop. The other is optional.
I run into problems when I see guys that usually shoot Glocks. Then, they pick up something like an M9 Beretta. When you do that, then you de-cock the gun.
My theory is two pick and choose on the slide release. Do it with the support hand thumb, as a right hand shooter. You could also come over the top. If you’re running guns like Glocks all the time, that technique works just fine.
Somebody picked the wrong house.
All Glock pistols follow the same design theme regardless of the caliber. However, you essentially have two sizes of Glocks. You have a 9 millimeter in 40 size, and you have a 45 in 10 millimeter size.
I’ve got a Glock 20 on the table and a Glock 17. We’re going to do a little show and tell to show the differences between the two guns. We’ll clear the Glock 20 out.
Then, we’ll disassemble it. The pull spring comes out the bottom. There’s the barrel.
Now, time for the Glock 17. It’s much smaller and lighter. You can tell when you pick it up.
The assembly is essentially the same. First, clear the weapon and magazine. Then, pull the trigger. Then, depress the takedown latch and pull the slide off the top. The recoil spring comes out the bottom. This is the first gen, so the recoil spring is not captured. Then, the barrel comes out.
Slide differences are the big differences you see right off the bat. This is the 10 millimeter, larger size Glock. This is the 9 millimeter. You can see the big difference in slide dimensions right off the bat. The 10 millimeter is much bigger and heavier. This is due to the increased slide velocity coming to the rear to help the gun cycle and dampen some recoil.
The recoil spring assemblies may look the same, but remember they’re a little bit different. Now, once again this is a first gen, so the recoil spring guide and spring came apart. The barrel profiles are similar, but the sizes are different. It’s just like the slide. This is your 10 millimeter and the 9 millimeter. There’s one millimeter difference, but the pressures involved with this cartridge make it bigger and beefier.
The frames have similar features. This is the larger frame next to the 9 millimeter size frame. Some parts do interchange, but these are mostly specific parts for a larger frame. You can see the design differences. It’s wider and longer.
Now, all my Glocks that I use are customized by Dave Bowie at Bowie Tactical. These guns are perfect examples. He textured the frames, removed the finger grooves, and put on a high grip scalp on the Glock 10 millimeter. He put on the sights I’m using.
The sights are Ameriglows. He installed them for me. You have a two-dot rear, tritium and also a single tritium dot up front with the red outline.
One great thing about the Glock 20 in 10 millimeter is it’s a lightweight gun that carries a lot of bullets. It’s a 13 round magazine. If you’re a backpacker in the backcountry, then you can have two and a half times more ammunition than a magnum revolver. It’s a smaller and lighter gun. You have a spare mag, and it’s quicker to reload. If a bear attacks you or a meth head, then you have something to stop them with.
Alright. It’s time to kick it up a notch.
We need to show the folks at home some of the stuff you can do on this range that you can’t necessarily replicate outside.
What’s some of the stuff you have that relates to law enforcement?
Well, we have a strobe light. We can turn the lights down and simulate a patrol car. We have red. Some states use red for their lights. In Georgia, we use blue, so we have red and blue.
Got it. Can you go either way?
We were out here scoping it out yesterday. I was with the crew checking this range out. We saw how much more difficult it was when the strobes were on. It made it hard to see the sights and for point shooting.
It’s kind in your bag of tricks.
It’s especially at closer ranges like this. You have to have the ability to point shoot, regardless of the sights on your guns.
Yeah. You need some degree. I’m looking forward to it. Is this the basic reload drill?
It’s the reload drill.
Okay. Let’s do it.
Out of everything we’ve done today, that was the thing I liked the most. I picked up on a couple of things. It’s hard to see your sight. You only get a flash sight picture when the lighting’s right.
Also, the gun running dry isn’t so obvious. When you realize you’re out of ammo, then you have to reload. I noticed another thing about what I teach. You guys probably do the same thing. You do your reload up here.
You maintain better situational awareness downrange. Also, it’s easier to get the mag in, even under conditions of low light.
That’s a cool drill.
How often do you guys run that in the IW course?
The lights is something I throw in myself to switch it up a little bit. It’s not actually incorporated in the IW course.
Got it. It’s just kind of a wildcard.
It’s kind of a wildcard. Exactly.
Now, what do you see on the target? Does accuracy deteriorate?
Yeah. Unfortunately, it’s one of those things that we need to practice more. Most shooters occur in low light. As you increase the stakes, the accuracy decreases.
Absolutely. Well put, brother. That was a good drill. I dig it, man.
I just found out that the Glock range has the ability to have moving targets. I like to incorporate movement any time I’m training or teaching classes. Nobody stands still in a gunfight. My crew is sick of hearing it, but it’s the truth.
Now, we’re going to run through a drill here. Scotty, can you run me through a drill?
We’re going to work on some left and right movement from the draw.
It’s from the draw.
Okay. How many shots?
Just chase it. We’ll shoot it until it gets out of sight.
Good deal, bro.
Good deal. I’d like to throw in one of my drills, if you don’t mind. We’ll do the same back and forth.
I’ll start back at 10. When it starts moving to the left, then I’ll move up to the five.
When it comes back, then I’ll move backward if that’s cool with you.
Let’s do it, bro.
Larry, before we go hot I wanted to mention something. To make this more realistic I’ve dialed the speed up. We can dial the speed up to make it more realistic. The targets are going to run faster left to right. Okay?
Good drill, Scotty.
Changing the speed really helps.
Yeah. It helps big time. Now, remember practice your movement at home. Nobody stands still in a gunfight. Bullets are going both ways. You’re not going to standstill either.
I got a special treat for you Tac TV viewers. We’re down here at Glock. Of course, they rolled out the red carpet for us. They offered to bring out a variety of Glocks for us to shoot.
The first one on our list is the Glock 18. Okay. My buddy Scotty has done a lot of time on the Glock 18. Have you worked on the compensated and the uncompensated model?
Alright. He noted one of the differences for me. The rails on the frame actually sit higher, so you can’t put a standard slide on one. The frame won’t interchange with another one.
Absolutely. The front and the rear rails sit higher.
Okay. Another thing is if you’re going to run one you need the metal sights. You don’t want the plastic sight on the front.
I would recommend the metal sight.
Okay. The rate of fire is very high.
14:41 It’s 1,100 rounds per inch.
Okay. The selector switch on up is semiautomatic.
The down is full auto.
He has been generous enough to provide some long mags that are appropriate for the machine pistol. I’m going to do some shooting here. I’ve never shot one of these. This is one of the few fully automatic weapons that I’ve never fired. I’m looking forward to it. If you guys are ready, then I’m going to go hot.
Let’s do it, Larry.
Okay. Now, I’m going to do some semi with the Glock 18.
Alright. Now, we’ll do full auto.
Well, I see a little phenomenon develop here. Scotty, you can come down. You can see the first shots here, and then it walks right up depending on the burst. I want to try one thing. Like I said, this is the first time I’ve shot one of these. My buddy, Ken Hawthorne, mentioned that using more of a weaver stand you can control recoil better. I’m going to try that. Do you got another mag or can we top this one off?
I used the modified fighting stance. It’s kind of a modified isosceles. It’s what I normally use, and I used there. I’m going to try more of a weaver and see if we get different results.
Alright. This is test number two with the Glock 18, weaver stance.
Here we go with semi auto.
This is full auto.
You know what? Ken’s right. Let’s check it out.
Here’s my first shots. Then, it rises up dramatically better. I don’t know how practical it is because we all agree that this would not be our first choice.
Lord knows that if you ever find yourself in harm’s way with a Glock 18, then think about the weaver stance in order to control it. Scotty, thanks a million, bro. I appreciate it. Yes, I will return the Glock 18 to you. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to keep it as a moment.
It’s time for the Walk Back Challenge. This is a drill I got from my good buddy, Rob Laykem, years ago, and it’s one of my favorites. I do it whenever possible in my training classes when we have steel to shoot at. In this case, we have a full size MGM silhouette.
It’s at the 300 yard line. The pistol I’m using is an unsung hero of the Glock lineup. It’s the Glock 20 in 10 millimeter. It’s one of the best guns they make. It doesn’t get a lot of press.
Power-wise it’s between a 357 magnum and a 41 magnum, yet it holds 15 rounds.
You can have two of these on your if you’re backpacking, out in the woods or hunting. You have 30 rounds of magnum power at your disposal. It’s a great gun.
Here’s the goal. I’m going to try to get back farther than I ever have before. Normally, when I do this drill in a pistol class I use a Glock 17 or 1911. I get at 125 yards or so, depending on the steel target. At that point, you have to start holding over the target, and it becomes very difficult to get much farther than that.
I’m hoping the flatter trajectory of the 10 millimeter round will help me push it back to 200 meters or so. It’s coming at you.
Okay. The target is down at the 300. We’re walking back. This is the 250 meter line. I wanted to say a couple things before we get started.
First, the gun is not bone stock as you would get one from Glock. I’ve had a good buddy of mine, Dave Bowie of Bowie Tactical Concepts, take off the finger grooves. It’s also got high visibility sights, slide release and mag release. The barrel and trigger are stock, however. The heart of the gun is essentially bone stock.
The other thing is that this may look simple on TV, but when you’re actually out here making shots at 100, 150 or 200 meters it is much more difficult than you might think. Trust me. We’re going hot.
It’s not too difficult here at 50. Let’s double the distance to 100.
I’m back at 100. I’m fixing to go hot. For a 9 millimeter or a 45 this would be a difficult shot. However, something like this 10 millimeter should be fairly easy. Wish me luck.
That was a good hit. I’m ready to go to 150.
Okay. We’re back here at 150. I got a news flash for you. It ain’t no joke. You come out here, stand on your hind legs and hold a hand gun out in front of you. Hit that target at 150 meters and you got my respect. Let’s see if I can do it for you on TV.
Yes! I hit it at 150, baby. Let’s go to 200.
Alright. This is officially the furthest pistol shot I’ve ever done. I haven’t done it yet, but I have a fair chance of hitting this. I hit at 150 and we’re 50 meters beyond that. When you’re talking about pistol ammunition and the arc involved, that’s a significant amount. I’m going to have to hold at the top of the target and cover it up. That’s where you run into problems. We’ll see. Here we go!
Yes! That was 200 meters, baby. It’s the Glock 20, 10 millimeter. Yes, daddy-o, I hit it! Bring it on, dog.
Okay. I’ve come back down to Earth a little bit. I just hit it at 200 meters on the second shot. I had to completely cover up the target. I was checking my hold over it and all that jazz. I missed it the first time, adjusted my hold and hit it the second time.
We’re out here. We’ve got the time. We’ve got the ammo. We’re going to try at 250 to see how it goes. I’m ecstatic I hit it at 200. I won’t know what to think if somehow I pull it off at 250.
Alright. We’re at 250. Oh my god. I hit it at 200. Now, we’re back at 250. We got to try it. I’m allowing myself a maximum of three rounds at 250. If we don’t hit it, then we’ll call it a day. We did what we said we wanted to do, which is hit it at 200.
If we hit it here, then we got to try it at 300. If I somehow hit it here, then we’ll try it. Here we go.
Can you believe it? That was the second shot at 250. The first shot was too low. I saw dirt hit. I took the hold and carried it higher. That was 250. Can you believe that? I would have never guessed in 100 years. We have no choice. We have to go to 300.
We’re back here at the benches where most people zero riffles from. They zero in on paper or steel out to 300. We have our MGM full silhouette all the way out to 300 meters. I’m going to attempt up to three shots with the Glock 20 in 10 millimeter auto. I’ve already hit at 250, 200 and on in closer. I’ve taken no more than three shots at any yard line. Now, we’ll see if I can do it at 300. We’re going hot.
I hit low. Well, that does it. 300 meters is a little bit too far. It hit at 250. Frankly, I’m ecstatic. I never shot beyond 125 with 9 millimeter 45. The 10 millimeter has more horsepower, so it extended significantly further. It was much further than I would ever have expected. I’ll take it and call it a day. I hope you enjoyed it. I did. See you back here on Tac TV.